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<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>I find this type of initiative very interesting, I'd like to have
some similar educational project when I was in school.</p>
<p>I think the software approach commented by Jonas could be more
affordable, in terms of management, and more cheap too. Said that,
the idea of a kit to hack is really attractive. Perhaps it could
be interesting to propose it as course in schools or online (like
on Coursera or a similar site).</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/25/2016 02:53 PM, Jonas Forsslund
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, Matthias,
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<div>In general I like these kinds of ideas. The whole Raspberry
Pi concept is well developed.</div>
<div>What I have been thinking recently however, is that there
is perhaps an overfocus on hardware.</div>
<div>Imagine instead a virtual small computer easily accessed
and programmed from a within</div>
<div>a web browser. It could visualize the memory, step-by-step
debugging could be very </div>
<div>straight-forward etc. I would even use it myself to "once
and for all" understand some</div>
<div>cs concepts i'm still unsure about or know in theory but
have not "seen". Maybe</div>
<div>such projects are available but I am not aware of any
(please tell if you do know).</div>
<div>A similar but more advanced projects is the <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://nand2tetris.org">nand2tetris.org</a>
course that I would like to persue at some point.</div>
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<div>Some obvious benefits of a software solution include no
distribution issue, environmental concerns,</div>
<div>upgrades and not to mention zero duplication costs. </div>
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<div>With this said, if having your own small hardware computer
gets the kids going, that should</div>
<div>of course be great to support for fsfe I think.</div>
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<div>Best regads</div>
<div>Jonas Forsslund</div>
<div>Sweden</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-11-25 14:32 GMT+01:00 Matthias
Kirschner <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mk@fsfe.org" target="_blank">mk@fsfe.org</a>></span>:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'd like to get some
feedback about some ideas floating around my head<br>
at the moment, and thought that some of you might be
able to help here.<br>
<br>
I was talking with some people who would like to fund
some concrete Free<br>
Software activities, focusing on research and education.<br>
<br>
One idea which came up is to support pupils to learn
more about how<br>
computer work, and promote hacking by providing "science
packs" with<br>
small hackable computers, and some modules, sensors etc.<br>
<br>
What do you think about making it easier for pupils to
get access to<br>
such tools. E.g. by having some packs in the libraries
or for school<br>
projects?<br>
<br>
I would be interested what you think about that, as I am
not yet sure<br>
about it.<br>
<br>
If you like it, do you have an idea how you could make
sure that<br>
children who are interested in that are connected around
Europe? (E.g.<br>
in Germany there is something called "Jugend hackt" --
youth is hacking<br>
-- Is there something similar on a EU level? Or are
there other ideas?)<br>
<br>
Thanks for your feedback,<br>
Matthias<br>
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