hum - see it sound so very complicated :S I just like to advance to go if you know what I mean. I will look into it :)<br><br>Best<br><br>Anna<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Daniel Pocock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel@pocock.com.au" target="_blank">daniel@pocock.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 09/01/13 23:00, Anna Morris wrote:<br>
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> I hope there will soon be a really good free software video option. Sam and<br>
> I tried to call pidgin to pidgin on the FSFE jabber server the other day.<br>
> It worked when we were in the same room at the sprint, but it didn't work<br>
> at a distance sadly.<br>
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</div>Anna, have you tried using a TURN server to relay the calls over NAT?<br>
You will need to check that Pidgin supports TURN - Jitsi definitely<br>
supports it<br>
<br>
There are two TURN servers that I have packaged on Debian, for example:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=resiprocate-turn-server" target="_blank">http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=resiprocate-turn-server</a><br>
<a href="http://packages.debian.org/sid/turnserver" target="_blank">http://packages.debian.org/sid/turnserver</a><br>
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and one of them is now in Ubuntu too:<br>
<a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/resiprocate-turn-server" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/resiprocate-turn-server</a><br>
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You can build either of them from source on many other platforms<br>
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> Best<br>
><br>
> Anna<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Pocock <<a href="mailto:daniel@pocock.com.au">daniel@pocock.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> FOSDEM update... leaders of open source VoIP, real-time communication,<br>
> micro-blogging and social networking projects are coming together at<br>
> FOSDEM to try and answer some of the concerns that were raised in the<br>
> FSF Europe report about the hunt for Skype alternative<br>
><br>
> Here is an interview:<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://fosdem.org/2013/interviews/2013-daniel-pocock-and-peter-saint-andre-and-simon-tennant-and-evan-prodromou-and-daniel-constantin-mierla-and-emil-ivov/" target="_blank">https://fosdem.org/2013/interviews/2013-daniel-pocock-and-peter-saint-andre-and-simon-tennant-and-evan-prodromou-and-daniel-constantin-mierla-and-emil-ivov/</a><br>
><br>
> and here it is in the schedule (14:00 on Sunday, 3 February):<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/free_open_secure_communications/" target="_blank">https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/free_open_secure_communications/</a><br>
><br>
> Look forward to meeting some of you at FOSDEM<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 21/11/12 23:14, Daniel Pocock wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 02/11/12 17:14, Sam Tuke wrote:<br>
>>>>> On 10/24/2012 06:08 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:<br>
>>>>>> I've actually proposed a follow-up talk about the subject for<br>
>>>>>> the upcoming mini-DebConf, as a developer of VoIP apps I'm<br>
>>>>>> quite keen to (try to) answer questions that people have about<br>
>>>>>> why so many things didn't work during the tests on Software<br>
>>>>>> Freedom Day<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/#schedule" target="_blank">http://fr2012.mini.debconf.org/#schedule</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Very good! Please let me know if there is a video made of this<br>
>>>>> talk, I can make a news item out of it on <a href="http://fsfe.org" target="_blank">fsfe.org</a>.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Just a reminder - the talk about Debian's role in replacing Skype<br>
>>>> is at 16:00 this Saturday.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>>> Yes, I'm happy to administer that, and mailman is fine.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> I'll get that set up.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Great, the list is now there for people who want to continue<br>
>>>> pursuing this initiative to the next stage:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/free-rtc" target="_blank">https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/free-rtc</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> There is already a push to repeat the VoIP client testing at FOSDEM<br>
>>>> in February, I'm currently discussing with the Jabber and<br>
>>>> telephony devroom co-ordinators.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> For those who missed it, Microsoft has announced they are killing<br>
>>>> off MSN within 6 months and migrating everybody into Skype... one<br>
>>>> step closer to world domination. Scary stuff. Expect them to take<br>
>>>> similar steps to make Skype more dominant in the corporate space.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
> <a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/microsoft-killing-messenger-early-next-year-in-favour-of-skype-50009702/" target="_blank">http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/microsoft-killing-messenger-early-next-year-in-favour-of-skype-50009702/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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